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    Hidden Costs of Working: What I Learned After Retirement

    Dec 5, 2025

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    8 min read

    SUMMARY

    Joe Kuhn (Lean Driven Reliability LLC) shares 15 surprising discoveries made after retiring, revealing the hidden costs of working, including pervasive stress, wasted money, compromised health, and a life rushed by the relentless pursuit of career and money.

    STATEMENTS

    • Retirement exposed hidden realities that were completely underestimated and previously undervalued, yielding significantly more joy, improved health, and renewed passion.
    • The chronic, underlying "background stress" of constant responsibility and complex, high-consequence problems only became apparent and lifted—like setting down a 15-pound weight—upon retirement.
    • The true cost of working extends far beyond salary, encompassing significant expenses like commuting mileage, clothing, lunches, and mandated contributions, accumulating to thousands of dollars annually.
    • Professional relationships developed during a career are often confined to the role of "co-workers," making the realization of who one's genuine, confiding friends are a distinct discovery in retirement.
    • Companies move on extremely quickly after an employee's departure, often forgetting decades of experience and expertise almost immediately, reinforcing the idea that no one is truly irreplaceable.
    • The lack of time and focus while working leads to significant financial wastage, observable in inefficient household plans, unoptimized insurance, and costly subscriptions like high-priced cable packages.
    • Many decisions surrounding taxes, particularly asset allocation, sequence of withdrawals, Social Security timing, and Required Minimum Distributions (RMDs), become far more complex and critical in retirement than during W2 employment.
    • The absence of office politics, drama, and the inherent mental load associated with workplace grievances and unfulfilled ambitions is profoundly liberating, freeing, and peaceful in retirement.

    IDEAS

    • The exhaustion felt at the end of a workday, which necessitates "vegging out" and passively consuming entertainment, is "work-induced," and that time is recovered in retirement along with the nine hours spent at the office.
    • Waking up at 5:00 AM on vacation or holidays to address email was a necessary strategy to manage an overwhelming workload, illustrating the pervasive nature of employment demands.
    • Retiring eliminated the mental space and decision-making burden previously dedicated to consistently strategizing and ensuring daily exercise before 5:00 AM.
    • The speaker now naturally sleeps around nine hours a night without an alarm, suggesting his body required significantly more restorative sleep than the 7 to 7.5 hours he logged while working.
    • Sleeping better in retirement is attributed to the total disappearance of things to "stress about while sleeping," eliminating the need for weekend naps which were common pre-retirement.
    • The energy drain from commuting is a phenomenon that transforms an "energetic" person into a "tired" one, disproportionately reducing vitality beyond logical explanation.
    • The formerly fast-paced life—characterized by rushed evenings, packed weekends of tasks, and aggressively scheduled "winning" vacations—is a fundamental component of the working mindset that is difficult to shed.
    • The retirement project list—anticipated to take months or years (e.g., house caulking)—was completed in just three weeks due to an initial inability to mentally slow down from the working pace.
    • The term "carefree timelessness," a concept appreciated in retirement, is defined as time spent with loved ones without an agenda, task, or time constraint, contrasting sharply with "speed dating" familial interactions.
    • Working on one's own life, health, learning, and self-improvement becomes profoundly more satisfying than the traditional professional pursuit of money and serving an employer.

    INSIGHTS

    • Chronic, low-grade stress is often completely imperceptible to the individual experiencing it until it is removed, at which point the profound relief reveals its previous magnitude.
    • A busy professional life acts as a continuous financial sieve, draining thousands of dollars through convenience spending, unoptimized services, and non-essential work-related costs.
    • The true measure of a personal relationship is revealed in the absence of a professional context, clearly differentiating supportive friends from merely amicable colleagues.
    • Transitioning from W2 employment fundamentally shifts personal finance from a passive tax recipient state to an active management role requiring deep engagement with complex tax optimization strategies.
    • Over-scheduling one's personal life and holidays is a conditioned behavioral artifact of a task and accomplishment-driven professional existence, persisting even when the underlying necessity for speed is gone.
    • Time in retirement provides the dual benefits of reducing expenses through focused optimization (DIY, comparison shopping) and reclaiming lost energy and mental capacity.

    QUOTES

    • "I had this background stress that was like setting down a 15lb weight."
    • "The cemetery is full of irreplaceable people."
    • "I didn't have time to optimize uh any of these things."
    • "The absence of all that office drama is very liberating and uh freeing and peaceful."
    • "Retirement didn't just give me time, it revealed the unrestrained me unrestrained by money and time constraints."

    HABITS

    • Prioritizing early morning exercise, consistently waking at 4:45 AM daily before retirement to ensure physical activity was accomplished.
    • Performing an hour of work email on all holidays and vacations starting at 5:00 AM to manage the constant inflow and ease Monday workload.
    • Embracing comparison shopping and active expense diving in retirement to find better deals on insurance, utilities, and services.
    • Engaging in DIY projects around the home, using resources like YouTube to handle repairs and maintenance rather than hiring professionals.
    • Actively pursuing self-improvement, learning, and study groups focusing on historical topics, nutrition, and faith after work commitments ended.

    FACTS

    • The speaker drastically reduced annual car mileage from approx. 15,000 miles while working to just 2,500 miles after retiring.
    • The speaker cut combined cable and internet costs from $220/month to less than $100/month by eliminating the cable service.
    • Rotator cuff surgery, mentioned by a doctor for a shoulder problem, was successfully avoided by the speaker through three months of dedicated exercises found on YouTube.
    • Huey Long, the subject of the speaker's current historical study group, was Governor of Louisiana in the late 1920s and early 1930s.
    • The speaker is currently married for 38 years and raised four children.

    REFERENCES

    • Boldin Software (formerly New Retirement) planning tool
    • Money Pickle financial advisor matching service
    • Donaldson Capital Management financial planning service
    • Defining Wealth financial planning service
    • Neil Fortwendel, CFP® (The speaker's personal financial planner)
    • Move Health (Specializes in early retiree health insurance)
    • Matthew Kelly (Source of the "carefree timelessness" quote)
    • YouTube (Source for DIY repairs and rehab exercises)

    HOW TO APPLY

    1. Identify and objectively assess sources of persistent, low-grade stress in your current professional life, recognizing that its true magnitude will likely only be clear once it is absent.
    2. Calculate the actual "all-in" cost of your employment, including expenses such as commuting costs (gas, tires, wear), work wardrobe, office lunches, and mandatory contributions, to gauge the true take-home value of your salary.
    3. Commit to performing a deep audit of recurring monthly expenses, subscriptions, and services (cable, insurance, utilities) to identify immediate areas for cost reduction and optimization through comparison shopping and cutting unnecessary services.
    4. Intentionally schedule and actively seek "carefree timelessness"—time spent with family or friends without any agenda, explicit task, or imposed time constraint—to practice valuing presence over accomplishment.
    5. Dedicate time to understanding the complexities of post-retirement taxation, focusing on concepts like asset location, sequence of withdrawals, RMD planning, and Roth conversions to prepare for financial self-management.

    ONE-SENTENCE TAKEAWAY

    Retirement unveils one's unrestrained self by eliminating work's pervasive stress, financial waste, and fast-paced nature, granting profound joy and superior health.

    RECOMMENDATIONS

    • Conduct a definitive separation between professional colleagues and genuine, personal friends to focus limited time and energy on truly supportive relationships both during and after employment.
    • Actively challenge the W2 mindset that encourages task accomplishment over present enjoyment, especially when planning vacations or spending time with family, prioritizing experience over excessive scheduling.
    • Treat rest and high-quality sleep as critical components of health, understanding that forced early rising and work-induced exhaustion may necessitate a significant sleep debt repayment upon entering retirement.
    • Allocate time and resources for self-directed technical and physical learning (e.g., via platforms like YouTube) to reduce reliance on external services and improve personal health management.
    • Plan financial strategies to manage the mental load of tax complexity upon retirement, preemptively learning about optimal withdrawal ordering and asset movement.

    MEMO:

    The Hidden Toll of Ambition: What One Executive Learned After Retirement

    For three decades, Joe Kuhn maintained a life he believed was fulfilling, balancing a demanding career with a happy home life. Yet, upon his retirement, he discovered a relentless, pervasive cost to his ambition—a concealed tax on his health, finances, and time that only became apparent in its absence. What he found was not merely a transition to leisure, but a revelation of the "unrestrained me," unburdened by the constant demands of career and capital.

    One of the most immediate and profound realizations was the unacknowledged background stress. Kuhn, who managed large departments and plants, consistently denied being stressed, attributing his exhaustion to the nature of the job. Retirement lifted a "15-pound weight," revealing that the constant low-level anxiety—driven by round-the-clock problem solving and high-stakes deadlines—had silently permeated his existence. This chronic stress fueled poor health habits, including "stress eating," and severely compromised his sleep, a deficit he is now repaying with nearly two extra hours of sleep per night, sans an alarm.

    This professional life also proved extraordinarily inefficient, financially and energetically. The daily commute, despite being relatively short, was a documented energy vacuum, transforming an "energetic Joe" into a "tired Joe." Furthermore, the lack of time and focus while working meant thousands of dollars were wasted annually on unoptimized services, insurance plans, and expensive services like cable TV which he drastically reduced post-retirement. The sheer volume of work also necessitated performing email duties every morning, even throughout holidays and vacations, highlighting the invasive nature of his commitment.

    Perhaps the most startling observation was the cultural shift required to embrace a less hurried existence. Kuhn—like many high-achievers—had become conditioned to a task and accomplishment-oriented life. Initially, in retirement, he burned through a list of home projects in just three weeks because he couldn’t slow down. This compulsion contrasts with the newfound appreciation for "carefree timelessness"—time spent with family and grandchildren without any agenda or rush. Ultimately, retirement reframed his purpose, shifting his satisfaction from working for money to working entirely on his life, health, and intellectual